If You'd Prefer to Read: Here is a transcript of what we chatted about in the interview:

Natalie: Well, I'm here with Matthew today and we're going to discuss his success story, your success story. I'd like to start with asking you, where was your life at before we started working together?

Matthew: Well, before we started working together, I was employed at a job which I now realize was just not a good fit, and a lot of things were going on in my life. I was just moving to a new apartment, my girlfriend, and then the job just didn't end up working out. I unfortunately lost my job, but I knew that I'd already taken on so much more responsibility that I needed to get things on track just because I wasn't going to let that stop me from advancing to my life and throwing away all the hard work I had put before that point to get to where I am now.

Natalie: Absolutely. You did talk to me about that quite a bit about how that job was not a good fit for you. Tell me a bit about where you are now. Very exciting times for you right now.

Matthew: It's a great... I got a degree in aerospace engineering and the previous job I was at was in the aerospace industry, but it wasn't like I was saying before, it was not a right fit, and then this opportunity came along to work in the medical device field working as a product development engineer within that company. I've always been someone who has been passionate about helping people and to get the chance to work on something that could be used to help someone's life rather than just working on luxury goods that people may or may not even care about, that was a main motivation for me wanting to go after this opportunity.

Natalie: Awesome. Why do you think they hired you specifically? They probably had other candidates that had more experience than you did, especially in the medical device field, so what do think are some factors that made them specifically choose you?

Matthew: From what the job description and everything was looking for, they were looking for someone who had experience in a heavily regulated field, whereas it was in aerospace and not in the medical field, it's still heavily regulated. The FAA and FDA are both insane when it comes to that kind of thing. They liked that I already had that kind of experience, but then I think what sold them on me was just the passion I had put forth towards them, showing them that, "Oh, I actually want to help people." Helping people is my priority and I feel like in the medical field, that has to be a main plus in the candidate that they're looking for.

Natalie: Absolutely, and that's one of the keys that I work with people a lot is to be focused on helping them versus focused on themselves. When you can make that shift to focusing on how you really want to help them out, then you can be a lot more successful and I think you did that really well.

Natalie: Awesome. Well, congratulations. I'm really excited for you.

Matthew: Thank you.

Natalie: I know that you and your girlfriend have both followed me on YouTube for quite a while, so we'd chatted. You kind of already knew me a bit, I didn't know you yet, but what were your hesitations about working with me, if any?

Matthew: Well, I guess the only thing was is I had only really known you through the videos and everything that you were offering and all the services and just the advice. Sometimes all that whole mentality like, "Oh, something could be too good to be true" kind of thing, that was really like the only reservation I had. After we had that one-on-one meeting and everything where you discussed everything with me, I could tell you were very frank, very earnest. It wasn't a show you were putting up for your videos. This is how you are in person, one on one, and that's what really sold me on wanting to work alongside you for the program.

Natalie: Thank you. Thank you so much. That's really great feedback to get. Thank you. After you decided to sign up, excuse me, how was your experience going through the process and working on this?

Matthew: It was definitely something new in that I had never like really done before. I had seen your videos and everything on how to go about doing it, but just to actually figure it out on my own, I could tell I needed some direction in there which I definitely got out of your program. Just because I have had experience in my personal life doing like personal training or something when I thought I had all the answers but I wasn't getting the results I wanted, knowing that you have a good trainer, you follow the process correctly, you get the results. I just shifted my mentality into thinking about that in my professional life and attacked the entire course work with that same kind of mentality.

Natalie: You really did, and so you went through pretty much the whole program. I know that you came to our calls and you were prepared and you were talking about all of the information that you learned. What do you think was the main benefit that you got out of our work together?

Matthew: I feel like it was just the accountability and knowing that we had the weekly meetings, but I could still reach out to you if anything would happen. Yes, it most definitely was useful as the time went on and we were working together and then all my results started pouring in because I remember at first, I'm just putting out the feelers and everything, stepping a little bit into the process, sending things out. There was nothing for like the first week and a half, and then all of a sudden before we had our other meeting, I just got slammed with all these interview requests, alumni connections, and I was like, "Where did all of this come from?" This was something I was not used to at all.

Natalie: I remember that, and I remember you had trouble scheduling one person and then another person wanted to talk at the same time, and I was like, "That's a good problem to have."

Matthew: Yes, all those quality problems lol

Natalie Fisher: All those quality problems. That was really awesome to see. If you were to review what you've learned so far and rate your own success story, how would it go briefly?

Matthew: As final success story would be that I went through everything in university. I learned the things I needed to learn to succeed. I just needed to have more confidence in myself and being very open to criticism and training and find someone that would help guide me along the path I wanted to go. I feel like that's kind of what I ended up doing. I just said, "You know what? I'm just going to leave my ego out there, be very coachable, go with someone that I trust that their system will get me the results I need. Go through it all and just keep a good attitude throughout the whole thing." That's exactly what happened.

Natalie: Awesome, and something else I noticed about you was you were very decisive right away. You were like, "Yep, let's do it." Do you think that in the other parts of your life that you've seen that be successful for you, like your decisiveness?

Matthew: Yes. As pretty much... throughout my entire life, I was the one out of my group of friends saying, "Oh, let's go do this, let's go do that", because everyone would always want to be doing one thing or another and I'm like, "I'm not having it." I would always be the one that like, "Okay, this is what we're trying to do. We can do this, this, and that. If we do it this way, if we start doing it now, we'll hit everything and everyone wins."

Natalie: Always kind of putting together a plan in your head and knowing where you were going to end up.

Matthew: Yeah, and I've just always been comfortable with that because I've just dealt with that my entire life, but then definitely working alongside you, I found how I can apply that in my professional life and take these skills that I apparently I always had, I just didn't know I had, and then know that I can apply them in this way.

Natalie: Absolutely. What do you think were your main learnings from the process as far as opportunities and interviews and basically what the program goes through? What would be your main learnings from the process?

Matthew: It's more of like I had an idea of the things that I needed to be changed, but it was like no formal feedback really on, "Yeah, these are definitely the things I should be thinking about things differently." I should go about these other things differently because I can definitely see the shift in my mindset over the years from when I started the job hunt a few years back to where I am. It's like especially in the perspective that you put it on. You want to be very selfless, you want to be very giving, showing how you can help them. I can definitely say my thought process when I first started was just the same typical, "Oh, I did this work. I deserve to be here." Not so much like what they deserve, it was like what I wanted from them, what they should be giving me.

Natalie: Exactly, and then you get to focus that on them, then you ultimately get what you want.

Matthew: Yes, and then just flipping that switch and then being pretty much my more authentic self and not feeling like that I am owed anything. Your checklist on what to expect from an interview and what you shouldn't be expecting at all is, that definitely put things in perspective just like you want to connect with a company that you can work alongside them, that they can help you grow, you can help them grow. It's a mutually beneficial relationship. You don't want to be in a job or industry where it's parasitic. They want everything from you and give you nothing in return.

Natalie: For sure, and that's something that you kept your eye on and got a great result from it. Altogether, how long did it take you to get your job since you started till now?

Matthew: When we started, that was like towards the beginning of April, and then my first day was just this past Monday, but then through the job interviews and everything, I got confirmation a couple of weeks back, so it was just about a little less than two months.

Natalie: You went through pretty quick, and like you said, it was a bit of a slow start, but then it all started coming together. For your new job, tell me what you love about it so far. I know you've only been there for a week.

Matthew: Well, I just love how open the communication is for everyone, not just in my department, but across all the other departments. HR is very responsive to your needs and concerns. The manager gets you the things that you need. It doesn't just get laid off to the wayside just waiting to get done. They put a heavy emphasis on training and making sure that you are comfortable the work before moving you forward. They take your comfort in of a great importance. They invest a lot into their employees.

Matthew: That's what I've been seeing, too, especially since they even believe in continuing education for their employees. If you want to learn something new that will benefit the company, they'll be glad to foot the bill for that, and I'm in the kind of company culture, company environment that I wanted to be a part of. That's more personal, working like a family where everyone is trying to help each other out rather than you're a drone, you're just a number. They just care about your results, they don't care about who you are as a person. They just want you to get your things done and just not do anything else, really.

Natalie: Absolutely. That's amazing. I'm really excited for you in your new position and what you're going to be able to accomplish, and then I just have one last question. What advice would you give to someone who was in your position where they're at right now in the job hunt or in a job that they don't love? What advice would you give them to move forward to really get to where you are now?

Matthew: I would say it's the biggest change because I realize working alongside you is not that I lacked the knowledge to change things I wanted to do, it was just my attitude and my way of thinking of things is what needed to be changed. Once I made that decision to stop seeing the negative side of things if they weren't going to be useful to me and start seeing them in a positive way, that's when everything became... I was more receptive to everything and then I was getting the results I wanted. I lost my job even though I had just got this apartment and everything, but then I'm thinking of it like it gave me the opportunity to get my own space and live with my girlfriend, have a stepping stone in the right direction of a lifestyle I want to live. Despite the issues with that, it got me to where I am now.

Natalie: Absolutely, and one important thing that I haven't talked about yet is somebody else in that situation who had just lost their job and had this apartment that they had to pay for, had responsibilities, they would potentially freak out. I've seen it a lot. They're like, "Oh my God. I have no money. I'm not going to have an income. What's going to happen to me?" You approached that differently, didn't you?

Matthew: Yes.

Natalie: You just mentioned it a bit, and so because of that, I feel like that's why you were able to get your results so quickly. Why did you approach it differently versus going to where most people go, which is "Oh my God, I've lost my job, what am I going to do"?

Matthew: Honesty, I don't know if it's the most healthy way to approach a problem. I just don't have time to feel sorry for myself like that. I have real obligations, I have real bills, I have real everything I need to pay, and then everything just got all of a sudden much more real. I didn't have time-

Natalie: Love it.

Matthew: To wallow in the self-pity. I just had to find a way to fix my thinking and then get straight into doing it.

Natalie: Love it.

Matthew: I got involved with unemployment, finding other ways to finance my lifestyle so that I can get the help I needed to actually get my life back on track to where I needed it to go. I just had to keep going at it. If I stopped, then I feel like all of that negativity was just going to catch up to me and then weigh me down and keep me from going to where I needed to go.

Natalie: Absolutely, and that's what I really want people to hear when they listen to this is you don't have time to feel sorry for yourself. You said, "I'm not sure if it's the most healthy way to approach it", it absolutely is because it got you moving and it got you in the right direction and it got you to where you are now. It absolutely worked well for you, so definitely a healthy way to approach it and I think other people can take that as well.

Matthew: It's just because it might be you're seeing it as like, "It is a bad that happened", yeah, it might be a bad thing, but you don't have to let it define the rest of your attitude going forward.

Natalie: Exactly and it doesn't mean anything about you. You're no less valuable. It just didn't work out.

Matthew: Yeah, and then I guess just something else I want to tell if anyone else is in that position, I am relatively young to everything. I'm just getting my feet wet with the whole job hunt, the job search, everything like building my own career. I know for sure that other people watching this, they've probably had more experience than I had, so with my limited understanding on how the professional world works, if I managed to figure it out, then I have no doubt that especially with Natalie's help you'll be able to figure it out no problem.

Natalie: Thank you so much, Matthew. I'm going to end that now. Thank you so much for the interview.

Bye!